[FPSPACE] Details of DPRK satellite

[Jens Kieffer-Olsen]

Sorry for being late to follow-up on your post, Phillip.

Others have already pointed to the fact that UK is not,
strictly speaking, a space-faring nation, since Woomera 
is South Australian, not English or Scottish territory.

That viewpoint is not surprisingly echoed by the North 
Koreans, who don't fail to also make the point that:

"The US space programme was heavily dependent on the 
expertise of Nazi rocket scientist Werner Von Braun.":

http://www.korea-dpr.com/forum/?p=1119

The point I wish to make here, however, is to draw 
a parallel between the North Korean doctrine of self-
reliance - Juche - and Robert Zubrin's vision of 
settlers being self-reliant after landing on Mars, 
'living off the land'.

Zubrinites may have a reputation in certain circles 
of being no less fanatical than followers of the Kim 
dynasty in Pyongyang, but why should self-reliance not 
be considered a virtue?

Receiving cargo from Earth occasionally is bound to 
be NICE, but will not life on Mars be more fulfilling 
for the colonists without a NEED for extra-planetary 
assistance?

--
Jens Kieffer-Olsen
Slagelse, Denmark


-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: Phillip Clark [mailto:phillipclark at btinternet.com] 
Sendt: 29. marts 2012 07:54
Til: FPSPACE
Emne: Re: [FPSPACE] Details of DPRK satellite

So long as the KSLV-1 uses a Russian-built first stage, I do not believe 
that we can classify South Korea as a "launcher nation".

To me, the parallel is the launch of Australia's WRESAT which used a United 
States Redstone and an Australian upper stage and which was successfully 
launched from Woomera.   No-one has ever claimed that this made Australia a 
"launcher nation".

When South Korea has a wholly South Korean launch vehicle then it can join 
the "club".

Phillip Clark


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From: "Jens Kieffer-Olsen" <dstdba at post4.tele.dk>
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Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 2:52 AM
Subject: Re: [FPSPACE] Details of DPRK satellite


>
> That puts into perspective the 2009 article on the
> Korea Space Launch Vehicle-1 and its 100 kg payload
> http://www.physorg.com/news169892750.html :
>
> A successful launch would make South Korea the tenth country
> to put a satellite into orbit using its own rocket.
>
> Seoul has invested 502.5 billion won (419 million dollars) and
> much national pride in the 33-metre (108-foot) rocket, whose
> second stage was built by local engineers.
>
> Seoul also built the 100-kilogram (220-pound) scientific research
> satellite atop the rocket at the Naro Space Centre at Goheung,
> 475 kilometres (300 miles) south of Seoul.
>
> [snip]
>
> Washington, concerned about a possible arms race in Northeast Asia,
> has however sought to restrict South Korea's missile development.
>
> A 2001 accord with the United States bars Seoul from developing
> missiles with a range of more than 300 kilometres (187 miles).
>
> Science ministry officials have denied Seoul is using Russian
> technology because Washington refused to transfer the necessary
> know-how.
>
> --
> Jens Kieffer-Olsen
> Slagelse, Denmark
>
> [FPSPACE] Details of DPRK satellite
> Morris Jones morrisjones at hotmail.com
> Wed Mar 28 20:16:55 EDT 2012
>
>>From the Chosun Ilbo.
> North Korea on Wednesday revealed details of a satellite it says
> it is preparing to launch into space next month.An unnamed official
> was quoted by the official KCNA news agency as saying that the
> satellite, which is to be carried into orbit by a rocket, weighs
> 100 kg and has a lifespan of two years. It is equipped with a camera
> enabling it to send back pictures and other observational data, the
> official claimed.Experts say a proper working satellite would weigh
> 500 kg and have a lifespan of at least five years. A satellite expert
> at a state-run research institute here analyzed the comments and said,
> "A satellite weighing 100 kg would be an experimental satellite
> equivalent to the Uribyeol 2 and 3 we launched in the 1990s, but with
> that claim North Korea has practically admitted that the rocket being
> launched does not aim to put a working satellite into orbit. Such
> a small satellite could be mounted along with the payload of
> a rocket being launched by another country. There is no reason to
> build an expensive launch vehicle for it."He said this shows the
> North "is really only interested in testing the launch vehicle
> rather than putting a satellite into orbit."
>