[FPSPACE] Yuri Gagarin's trek aboard Sputnik

Thu Jan 28 17:00:09 EST 2010

I hope we can all take a deep breath and remember The Fallacy of  
Uninterrupted Trends: nothing develops the way we expected it will  
based on trends. 2020 is 10 years from now. The Apollo moon landings  
and the collapse of the Betlin Wall (to name only two events) were not  
predicted 10 years earlier.

Personally, I do not expect the termination of US astronaut flights.

JBC

On Jan 28, 2010, at 15:47, "Peter Pesavento" <pjp961 at svol.net> wrote:

> That’s a very excellent question.
>
> I am willing to bet not even NASA knows, or the Administration  
> knows, or anyone in the Federal bureaucracy knows.
>
>
>
> From: Robert Law [mailto:robert_law at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 4:27 PM
> To: 'Anatoly Zak'; Peter Pesavento
> Cc: fpspace at friends-partners.org
> Subject: Re: [FPSPACE] Yuri Gagarin's trek aboard Sputnik
>
> and what happens after 2020 ?  ??????????????
>
>
> Robert Law
>
> --- On Thu, 1/28/10, Peter Pesavento <pjp961 at svol.net> wrote:
>
> From: Peter Pesavento <pjp961 at svol.net>
> Subject: Re: [FPSPACE] Yuri Gagarin's trek aboard Sputnik
> To: "'Anatoly Zak'" <agzak at optonline.net>
> Cc: fpspace at friends-partners.org
> Date: Thursday, January 28, 2010, 9:03 PM
>
> I think that we can say that ALL space exploration is a luxury that  
> super
> power nations, and those that aspire to be super powers, afford  
> themselves.
> Manned space efforts especially.
>
> It brings in some science discovery and engineering development, but  
> above
> all other things it brings international prestige.  And its military  
> utility
> waxes and wanes (for example remote sensing of varying brands).
>
> Main reason for it.  (I think that may be the main reason why Iran,  
> North
> Korea, even PRC want to become space faring nations.)
>
> When the money isn't there, one doesn't engage in it.  Or one cuts  
> back on
> it, or postpones it--or cancels it outright, and doesn’t return to i 
> t.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fpspace-bounces at friends-partners.org
> [mailto:fpspace-bounces at friends-partners.org] On Behalf Of Anatoly Zak
> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 10:07 AM
> To: Untitled
> Subject: Re: [FPSPACE] Yuri Gagarin's trek aboard Sputnik
>
> Historians long warned us that the Cold War rivalry was the main  
> driving
> force behind the manned space program. Without such a powerful  
> stimulus,
> politicians might not find enough justification to pay for manned  
> space
> flight, not matter who is in the White House. Just take a look at  
> Europe!
> What Bush administration proposed in 2004 was unsustainable and  
> unwise, but
> few could see at the time, therefore a lot of time and money was  
> wasted.
> There were also ludicrous claims all over American press by self- 
> proclaimed
> "experts" about Chinese landing on the Moon within five years, which  
> of
> course, provided additional push to a quick-fix, feel-good, dump- 
> partners
> "return to the Moon." It is a pay back time now, however I think  
> NASA can
> still make it right. The decision to extend ISS to 2020 would be a  
> first
> good move and returning to the negotiation table with partners about  
> the
> future program would be another.
>
> Anatoly Zak
> http://www.russianspaceweb.com
>
>
>
> On 1/28/10 3:34 PM, "LARRY KLAES" <ljk4 at msn.com> wrote:
>
> > I love my country and what it stands for but the growing ignorance  
> and
> > religious zealotry I see all around me at so many levels has me  
> feeling
> that a
> > strongly worded letter to the editor just isn't going to be enough  
> any
> more.
> >
> > And now we have Obama cutting NASA off at the knees and our future  
> in
> space.
> >
> > I recall during the 2008 election how one of his flunkies - I mean  
> aides -
> > kept heavily suggesting that people might want to experience space  
> travel
> > virtually rather than in person. Guess that's the real goal of this
> > administration despite Obama telling us how much he likes Star Trek.
> >
> > Larry
> > R
> > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Anatoly Zak <agzak at optonline.net>
> > Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 14:23:18
> > To: <fpspace at friends-partners.org>
> > Subject: Re: [FPSPACE] Yuri Gagarin's trek aboard Sputnik
> >
> > Jim, sorry he's got so much math shoved down his throat, that he  
> could no
> > longer swallow even most basic knowledge. Actually, sounds like  
> many of my
> > classmates in America - dumb and proud of their ignorance. I  
> wouldn't
> single
> > out Hollywood.
> >
> >  Anatoly Zak
> >  http://www.russianspaceweb.com <http://www.russianspaceweb.com>
> >
> >
> >  On 1/28/10 2:24 PM, "James Oberg" <jameseoberg at comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >  I also got a chuckle out of "Star City,
> >  somewhere on the dark side of Kazakhstan boondocks..."
> >
> >  I'm presuming these howlers are from the reviewer, NOT the film  
> itself.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  Space Tourists -- Film Review
> >
> >
> http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/film-reviews/space-tourists-film-review-
> 10
> > 04062347.story
> >
> <http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/film-reviews/space-tourists-film-review
> -1
> > 004062347.story>
> >  By Duane Byrge, January 26, 2010 11:09 ET
> >
> >  PARK CITY -- Even us Baby Boomers who got advanced math shoved  
> down our
> > throats in the wake of Yuri Gagarin's trek aboard Sputnik, and  
> couldn't
> care
> > less about outer space, will be entertained by this spry, melancholy
> glimpse
> > into the last half-century's race to space. "Space Tourists' "  
> informative
> and
> > engaging trajectory should land it on cable somewhere: History and
> Discovery
> > come to mind as orbit platforms.
> >
> >  If you've got $20 million set aside for your next vacation, you  
> can sign
> up
> > to hop aboard a Russian rocket and get lifted into the wild not-so- 
> blue
> > yonder. That's what dreamer Anousheh Ansari has shelled out for her
> lifelong
> > dream vacation. In this wry and inspiring documentary, filmmaker  
> Christian
> > Frei concentrates on her trek to live her dream, from the rigors  
> of the
> > Russian space school located in Star City, somewhere on the dark  
> side of
> > Kazakhstan boondocks, to her eventual re-entry to the boondocks of  
> Mother
> > Earth.
> >
> >  Told through the narration of a young Norwegian man attempting to  
> connect
> > with his Russian heritage, "Space Tourists" is alternately gloomy  
> and
> balmy:
> > In essence, it visualizes the failure of Communism. We see the  
> ugly ruins
> of
> > government apartments, which during the Khrushchev we-will-bury- 
> you era,
> > housed thousands of engineers and top scientists. It's now a ghost  
> town,
> shut
> > down by Gorbachev and creaking toward "Mad Max" ruination.
> >
> >  With its nicely languid story loopings, including a team of scrap  
> metal
> > scavengers who retrieve the re-entry detritus for its precious  
> titanium,
> > "Space Tourists" is a multi-dimensional glimpse into dreams and
> obsessions.
> > Filmmaker Frei smartly interweaves the pride that many felt  
> because of the
> > space program's accomplishments while visualizing its down-to-earth,
> economic
> > failings.
> >
> >  Cinematographer Peter Indergand's scopings are expressively  
> accented by
> the
> > fine editing of Frei and Andreas Winterstein: The images, glorious  
> and
> crude,
> > butt against each other -- evocative of this Quixotic quest. The  
> film's
> spare
> > musical score is also ascendant, courtesy of composers Jan Garbarek,
> Edward
> > Artemyev and Steve Reich.
> >
> >  Venue: Sundance Film Festival
> >  Sales: Films Transit International
> >  Production companies: Christian Frei Productions GMBH in co- 
> production
> with
> > Swiss National Television, ZDF/Arte and Suissimage
> >  Cast: Anousheh Ansari, Jonas Bendiksen, Dumitru Popescu, Charles  
> Simonyi
> >  Director-producer: Christian Frei
> >  Director of photography: Peter Indergand
> >  Music: Jan Garbarek, Edward Artemyev, Steve Reich
> >  Editors: Christian Frei, Andreas Winterstein
> >  No rating, 100 minutes
> >
> >
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