[FPSPACE] [SPAM] Re: Asteroid impact talk at Flagstaff

[John]

David,

How embarrassing it must be for you to be accused of spouting the NASA  
line! I know for a fact that you care very little for any NASA lines.

John Charles
Houston Texas

Sent from my new iPhone

On Jul 10, 2009, at 22:57, David Portree <dsfportree at hotmail.com> wrote:

> I don't mind; ad hominem attacks say a lot more about the attacker  
> than the attacked.
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> David S. F. Portree
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> dportree at usgs.gov
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> http://astrogeology.usgs.gov/About/People/DavidPortree/
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> From: spaceflightnews at gmail.com
> To: fpspace at friends-partners.org
> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 07:16:53 +0100
> Subject: Re: [FPSPACE] [SPAM] Re: Asteroid impact talk at Flagstaff
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> It’s bad enough that we have to have these constant and often mean-s 
> pirited ramblings on here, but I vote for immediately banning anyone 
>  who posts personal attacks such as this.
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> From: fpspace-bounces at friends-partners.org [mailto:fpspace- 
> bounces at friends-partners.org] On Behalf Of E.P. Grondine
> Sent: 10 July 2009 02:00
> To: dsfportree at hotmail.com; fpspace at friends-partners.org
> Subject: [SPAM] Re: [FPSPACE] Asteroid impact talk at Flagstaff
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> You have me confused with Leon Trotsky.
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> David, let's be upfront here - a brief look at your biography shows  
> you've been spouting the NASA line for years, and have been well  
> paid to do it.
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> The impact hazard for the last 13,000 years is as I and others have  
> documented; I am not alone in this. It's simply that you're not  
> listening to them either.
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> As for myself, I documented von Braun's war crimes (and nerve gases)  
> and moved on the cometary impact hazard.
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> Personally, I don't know what "astrogeology" is, but I do know that  
> we've been waiting FOR SOME TIME for some cores from the coastal  
> Carolinas with impact mega-tsunami data.
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> Perhaps your salary could be more efficiently spent by the USGS. Now  
> what is it you do for us that makes it worth the money?
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> Ed
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> From: dsfportree at hotmail.com
> To: epgrondine at hotmail.com; fpspace at friends-partners.org
> Subject: RE: [FPSPACE] Asteroid impact talk at Flagstaff
> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 16:20:47 -0600
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> The Prophet Grondine speaks. I'd rather listen to folks with  
> credentials.
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> David S. F. Portree
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> dsfportree at hotmail.com
> dportree at usgs.gov
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> http://beyondapollo.blogspot.com/
> http://portreeland.blogspot.com/
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> From: epgrondine at hotmail.com
> To: fpspace at friends-partners.org
> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 14:18:48 -0500
> Subject: [FPSPACE] Asteroid impact talk at Flagstaff
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> Hi David -
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> So much stupidity, so little of me left to combat it.
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> As I assembled a data base of impacts for the last 13,000 years,  
> I'll simply state that this is comforting BS which manned Mars  
> enthusiasts such as yourself prefer to believe and actively promote.
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> "Asteroids occasionally collide with the Earth."
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> So do COMETS.
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> "Fortunately, large impacts that would cause
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> once every few million years on average."
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> Actually, even smaller impacts cause global
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> catastrophe through the nuclear winter effect
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> of atmospheric dust loading.  Think of a billion people
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> starving to death; now try to imagine that
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> happening somewhere more often than once
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> "Smaller impacts, some of which could cause countrywide devastation,  
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> Impact-mega tsunamis have been running at a rate of
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> 1 per 1,000 years. About 60 million deaths per event
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> "Because of the great consequences of even a locally
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> destructive impact, efforts have been underway for more than a decade
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> to discover as many so-called near-Earth asteroids (NEAs) as
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> Tunguska class events have been occurring
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> at a rate of 1 per 100 years. If a major city
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> Immediate deaths around 10 million or so.
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> If a nuclear electric reactor gets hit, then
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> the land becomes unusable. If the impact touches
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> off an accidental nuclear weapons exchange, then
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> the deaths go to the billions range.
> cao knee men,
> E.P. Grondine
> Man and Impact in the Americas
> (the other 13,000 years of North American history, including some  
> major impacts.)
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