[FPSPACE] [SPAM] Re: Asteroid impact talk at Flagstaff

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It's bad enough that we have to have these constant and often mean-spirited
ramblings on here, but I vote for immediately banning anyone who posts
personal attacks such as this.

 

 

 

 

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[mailto:fpspace-bounces at friends-partners.org] On Behalf Of E.P. Grondine
Sent: 10 July 2009 02:00
To: dsfportree at hotmail.com; fpspace at friends-partners.org
Subject: [SPAM] Re: [FPSPACE] Asteroid impact talk at Flagstaff

 

You have me confused with Leon Trotsky.

David, let's be upfront here - a brief look at your biography shows you've
been spouting the NASA line for years, and have been well paid to do it.

The impact hazard for the last 13,000 years is as I and others have
documented; I am not alone in this. It's simply that you're not listening to
them either.

As for myself, I documented von Braun's war crimes (and nerve gases) and
moved on the cometary impact hazard.

Personally, I don't know what "astrogeology" is, but I do know that we've
been waiting FOR SOME TIME for some cores from the coastal Carolinas with
impact mega-tsunami data.

Perhaps your salary could be more efficiently spent by the USGS. Now what is
it you do for us that makes it worth the money?

Ed

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From: dsfportree at hotmail.com
To: epgrondine at hotmail.com; fpspace at friends-partners.org
Subject: RE: [FPSPACE] Asteroid impact talk at Flagstaff
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 16:20:47 -0600

The Prophet Grondine speaks. I'd rather listen to folks with credentials.

David S. F. Portree

dsfportree at hotmail.com
dportree at usgs.gov
 
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http://astrogeology.usgs.gov/About/People/DavidPortree/
 



 

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From: epgrondine at hotmail.com
To: fpspace at friends-partners.org
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 14:18:48 -0500
Subject: [FPSPACE] Asteroid impact talk at Flagstaff

Hi David - 

So much stupidity, so little of me left to combat it.

As I assembled a data base of impacts for the last 13,000 years, I'll simply
state that this is comforting BS which manned Mars enthusiasts such as
yourself prefer to believe and actively promote.

"Asteroids occasionally collide with the Earth."













So do COMETS.













"Fortunately, large impacts that would cause 






global catastrophe for humans occur only 






once every few million years on average."













Actually, even smaller impacts cause global 






catastrophe through the nuclear winter effect 






of atmospheric dust loading.  Think of a billion people 






starving to death; now try to imagine that 






happening somewhere more often than once






per 10,000 years.













"Smaller impacts, some of which could cause countrywide devastation, occur
ten times more 






frequently."













Impact-mega tsunamis have been running at a rate of






1 per 1,000 years. About 60 million deaths per event






with current population loads.













"Because of the great consequences of even a locally 






destructive impact, efforts have been underway for more than a decade 






to discover as many so-called near-Earth asteroids (NEAs) as 






possible."













Tunguska class events have been occurring 






at a rate of 1 per 100 years. If a major city 






in any country gets hit, then that country ceases.






Immediate deaths around 10 million or so.













If a nuclear electric reactor gets hit, then 






the land becomes unusable. If the impact touches 






off an accidental nuclear weapons exchange, then 






the deaths go to the billions range. 

cao knee men,
E.P. Grondine
Man and Impact in the Americas
(the other 13,000 years of North American history, including some major
impacts.)

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