[FPSPACE] Asteroid impact talk at Flagstaff

[E.P. Grondine]

You have me confused with Leon Trotsky.

David, let's be upfront here - a brief look at your biography shows you've been spouting the NASA line for years, and have been well paid to do it.

The impact hazard for the last 13,000 years is as I and others have documented; I am not alone in this. It's simply that you're not listening to them either.

As for myself, I documented von Braun's war crimes (and nerve gases) and moved on the cometary impact hazard.

Personally, I don't know what "astrogeology" is, but I do know that we've been waiting FOR SOME TIME for some cores from the coastal Carolinas with impact mega-tsunami data.

Perhaps your salary could be more efficiently spent by the USGS. Now what is it you do for us that makes it worth the money?

Ed
From: dsfportree at hotmail.com
To: epgrondine at hotmail.com; fpspace at friends-partners.org
Subject: RE: [FPSPACE] Asteroid impact talk at Flagstaff
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 16:20:47 -0600








The Prophet Grondine speaks. I'd rather listen to folks with credentials.

David S. F. Portree

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http://astrogeology.usgs.gov/About/People/DavidPortree/
 



 


From: epgrondine at hotmail.com
To: fpspace at friends-partners.org
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 14:18:48 -0500
Subject: [FPSPACE] Asteroid impact talk at Flagstaff



Hi David - 

So much stupidity, so little of me left to combat it.

As I assembled a data base of impacts for the last 13,000 years, I'll simply state that this is comforting BS which manned Mars enthusiasts such as yourself prefer to believe and actively promote.
"Asteroids occasionally collide with the Earth."

So do COMETS.

"Fortunately, large impacts that would cause 
global catastrophe for humans occur only 
once every few million years on average."

Actually, even smaller impacts cause global 
catastrophe through the nuclear winter effect 
of atmospheric dust loading.  Think of a billion people 
starving to death; now try to imagine that 
happening somewhere more often than once
per 10,000 years.

"Smaller impacts, some of which could cause countrywide devastation, occur ten times more 
frequently."

Impact-mega tsunamis have been running at a rate of
1 per 1,000 years. About 60 million deaths per event
with current population loads.

"Because of the great consequences of even a locally 
destructive impact, efforts have been underway for more than a decade 
to discover as many so-called near-Earth asteroids (NEAs) as 
possible."

Tunguska class events have been occurring 
at a rate of 1 per 100 years. If a major city 
in any country gets hit, then that country ceases.
Immediate deaths around 10 million or so.

If a nuclear electric reactor gets hit, then 
the land becomes unusable. If the impact touches 
off an accidental nuclear weapons exchange, then 
the deaths go to the billions range. 
cao knee men,
E.P. Grondine
Man and Impact in the Americas
(the other 13,000 years of North American history, including some major impacts.)



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