[FPSPACE] A very interesting story!

mattwriter at aol.com mattwriter at aol.com
Fri Jan 2 23:24:34 EST 2009


This story does not make a ton of sense. The Atlas and Delta EELVs are not purely military rockets: NASA can purchase them commercially from ULA any time they want.  EELVs carry commercial satellites and NASA payloads like the GOES series. What NASA would have to pay ULA to do is build a man-rated version, which the Pentagon has no interest in.  It's also not clear where NASA and DoD ties need to be closer: they cooperate every day on everything from range operations to the significant military support to shuttle launches to missions like Orbital Express and vehicles like the X-43.  I am all in favor of taking another look at whether replacing Ares with EELVs makes sense, but this reads as if written by someone with no relevant background.

Matt Bille





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From: Charles Vick <cpvick at globalsecurity.org>
To: 'Peter Pesavento' <pjp961 at svol.net>; fpspace at friends-partners.org
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What we need is a robust proven liquid propellant booster that can be put into production now with new updated flight avionics. No or very little new R&D and concentrate on the rebuild of the launch test infrastructure we are going to have to do anyway and the new robust safer than now Orion spacecraft. Any other R & D effort is extra as we are in a geopolitical Science and Technology Industrial base game for keeps and we are loosing fast. I reject everything offered so far for serious inadequacy or serious 
safety issues and the required new R & D. Oh just how long did it take NASA to test fire the J-2 once the order was given to do so and how about the F-1 that Astronaut Thomas Stafford strongly suggested that we put back in production. Truly amazing and if we do not do it ….. 

 

 

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Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 7:15 PM
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20090102/pl_bloomberg/aovrno0oj41g

 

It appears that the Obama Administration might want to return astronauts to the Moon much sooner than the Chinese…

Obama Moves to Counter China With Pentagon-NASA Link

Demian McLean Demian Mclean Fri Jan 2, 3:58 pm ET 

 




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