[FPSPACE] Orbital Machines?

[John Locker]

Peter...


His images are not of the same quality . or indeed clarity as those captured 
by many on this list.
I'll include my own at 
http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/satcom_transits/March2005.html in that 
category.

I have no real need to explain myself......a hoax is a hoax....simple.

As for
> You yourself have said right here that his findings have been confirmed!

I dont think thats what I said......

> I have been in touch with and alerted , a number of those mentioned , and
> quoted  , in the articles .They confirmed that their comments were mis
> represented and also , video of them was used without permission.As a 
> result


A number of experts are  supposed to have confirmed his findings according 
to Walson
You will not see most of those comments on the Rens site as those involved 
have demanded that they be removed.
I was so appalled by the Big Machines series of articles ( and astounded 
that anyone with an ounce of sense would believe them ) that I spent some 
time contacting the experts who Walson claimed had been impressed by his 
work.

I am not going to name those involved....but suffice to say , they took 
action to get their names removed.

If you want to continue to believe his work......go right ahead....its your 
prerogative.
Remember...incredible claims require incredible evidence...........and I 
have seen none of the latter in his images.



John



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Pesavento" <pjp961 at svol.net>
To: "'John Locker'" <john at satcom.freeserve.co.uk>
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 12:28 PM
Subject: RE: [FPSPACE] Orbital Machines?


> Please explain to me why his stuff is a hoax.  All of his imagery is of 
> the
> same quality and type as others who image NEO satellites, same kind of
> resolution.
>
> You yourself have said right here that his findings have been confirmed!
>
> So please explain.
>
> Please post your reasons on the fpspace forum.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Peter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fpspace-bounces at friends-partners.org
> [mailto:fpspace-bounces at friends-partners.org] On Behalf Of John Locker
> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 2:54 AM
> To: fpspace at friends-partners.org
> Subject: Re: [FPSPACE] Orbital Machines?
>
> Jim and all..
>
>
>
> The guy is a hoaxer..!
> He lives in the UK , near to the south coast ( very near to , incidentally 
> ,
>
> a very active military helicopter base....hence his fixation with being
> watched ! )
>
> I have been in touch with and alerted , a number of those mentioned , and
> quoted  , in the articles .They confirmed that their comments were mis
> represented and also , video of them was used without permission.As a 
> result
>
> a number of names of experts , confirming his findings , have been 
> removed.
>
>
> The chap is either very sad , deluded , or both.
> He is assocoated with one who calls himself...gridkeeper........ another
> dubious individual
>
> John
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "James Oberg" <jeoberg at comcast.net>
> To: "gorski" <gorski at ctc.net>; "Peter Pesavento" <pjp961 at svol.net>
> Cc: <fpspace at friends-partners.org>
> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 9:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [FPSPACE] Orbital Machines?
>
>
>> Any picture he got of ISS was a picture of a shuttle picture...
>> these 'things don't 'CROSS' the sky, he says -- they HANG there
>> with no angular motion in what he calls 'synchronous orbits' all over the
>> celestial sphere.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "gorski" <gorski at ctc.net>
>> To: "Peter Pesavento" <pjp961 at svol.net>
>> Cc: "'James Oberg'" <jeoberg at comcast.net>; <fpspace at friends-partners.org>
>> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 3:53 PM
>> Subject: Re: [FPSPACE] Orbital Machines?
>>
>>> I didn't see any real information that would indicate to me how big 
>>> these
>>> things actually are--big if he can spot them and photograph them, to be
>>> sure, but we don't know how long it takes them to cross the sky, for
>>> example, or how high in the sky these objects were when photographed as
>>> opposed to when he photographed ISS.
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