[FPSPACE] FPSpacer in the news re missile defense in Europe

[E.P. Grondine]

Well, Phil, if you look up in the sky at night you might notice an International Space Station passing overhead.

Now its all very nice to use FPspace to pretend that Iran is a demon that is going to launch IRBMs at Europe, and that thus ABM bases in eastern Europe are necessary.

And its all very nice to pretend that Israel does not dominate US strategic and diplomatic problems, and that zionists are not active in the media and political process here in the US - or for that matter dominate public discussion, including forums like FP space.

It is also very nice to pretend that the holocaust was not a European phenomena, or that pogroms did not take place in czarist Russia, for that matter.

There are now 160,000 US troops between Iran and Syria, no public discussion of the Office of Special Plans, and the US debt has gone up by $2 Trillion.

Welcome to the nightmare.


From: phillipclark at btinternet.com
To: fpspace at friends-partners.org; dstdba at post4.tele.dk; epgrondine at hotmail.com
Subject: FPSpacer in the news re missile defense in Europe
Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 10:51:40 +0100










Is FRIENDS and Partners in Space an 
appropriate forum for this continued non-space 
discussion?
 
 
Phillip Clark
 
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: 
  E.P. 
  Grondine 
  To: dstdba at post4.tele.dk ; FPSPACE at friends-partners.org 
  
  Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 9:30 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [FPSPACE] FPSpacer in the 
  news re missile defense in Europe
  

Jens - 

Speaking of evolution, somehow it seems very 
  like a typical European behavior to nearly completely slaughter the Jews, and 
  then turn the devastated remainder loose on the Moslems.

E.P. 
  Grondine
Man and Impact in the Americas

> From: dstdba at post4.tele.dk
> To: epgrondine at hotmail.com; fpspace at friends-partners.org
> 
  Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 05:23:17 +0200
> Subject: Re: [FPSPACE] FPSpacer 
  in the news re missile defense in Europe
> 
> 
> > 
  -----Original Message-----
> > From: E.P. Grondine 
  [mailto:epgrondine at hotmail.com] 
> > Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 
  2:11 AM
> > To: robot at esper.com; 
  FPSPACE at friends-partners.org
> 
  > Subject: Re: [FPSPACE] FPSpacer in the news re missile 
> > 
  defense in Europe
> > 
> > Hi  - 
> > 
> 
  > You're reference frame for analysis is wrong.
> > 
> > 
  Israel is continuing to steal Palestinian land. 
> > 
> > 
  Syria, Iran, Pakistan, and Saudi Arabia all  have IRBMs.
> > 
  
> > Analysis of US policy has to be undertaken with in view of 
  
> > those facts.
> > 
> > E.P. Grondine
> 
  > Man and Impact in the Americas
> 
>  Ed,
> 
  
>  I appreciate your candor. However, since you argue 
  your
>  views at the most - eh, shall we say exoteric - 
  level
>  possible, it is about as meaningful to try to 
  dissect
>  and refine them as it is to assist the neocons 
  in
>  tailoring the war on terror.
> 
>  In a 
  sense one feels trapped between gangland verbal
>  artillery 
  positions, just as when one is witness to
>  proponents of classic 
  Darwinism clash with believers
>  of the doctrine called 
  Intelligent Design. Somehow
>  it's unbelievable that the hard work 
  of millions of
>  generations of human forefathers is still not 
  generally
>  acknowledged in a theory of evolution as the real 
  force
>  paving the way forward.
> 
>  Just as 
  Shakespeare's works are neither the result of
>  an army of monkeys 
  blindly hitting the keyboard nor the
>  result of a telephone call 
  from some archangel with
>  literary interests, but the 
  manifestation into script of
>  the mindset built up by the author 
  as he spent decades
>  of years reflecting over human virtue and 
  human folly.
> 
>  So, if control of the land of Israel has 
  reverted to the
>  12 tribes that lived there about 2000 years ago 
  through
>  their sufferings in generations during the diaspora, 
  then
>  it's  inaccurate of you to use the phrase 'continuing 
  to
>  steal Palestinian land'.
> 
>  On the other 
  hand the heart-rending sufferings endured by
>  the Palestinian 
  people to-day must lead them to eventually
>  triumph and reap a 
  reward, too.
> 
>  That's karma for dummies, and perhaps the 
  contribution to
>  the analysis of US ( and Israeli ) policy that 
  you call for?
> 
> --
> Jens Kieffer-Olsen
> Slagelse, 
  Denmark
>     
> 
> 
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