[FPSPACE] Wouldn't be surprised

[Terry Wilson]

I'm not too sure about that.  I think the aerospace industry in the US has
degraded so badly that the real cost of rebuilding the Saturn V would
probably be quite a bit more than it was to do initially.  I am expecting
the real cost of the Ares I all by itself to be a heck of a lot more than
the Saturn IB, it's Apollo equivalent.

On 4/27/07, Charles Vick <cpvick at globalsecurity.org> wrote:
>
> I tell you we are going to spend as much money or more as it would have
> cost
> to put Saturn-V back into production for the dangerous hardware
> cpvick
>
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> [mailto:fpspace-bounces at friends-partners.org] On Behalf Of Terry Wilson
> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 5:09 PM
> To: FPSPACE at friends-partners.org
> Subject: Re: [FPSPACE] Wouldn't be surprised
>
> Okay, let's see...http://www.nasaspaceflight.com : front page says they
> are
> designing a bigger version of Ares V (perhaps the extant version isn't big
> enough.)  I get most of my most current information from here:
>
> http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/forum-view.asp?fid=29
>
> My apologies if that link doesn't work for you, it is part of the
> www.nasaspaceflight.com L2 premium service.  And I go through it all to
> find
> if there is any indication of Ares I not performing well enough...
>
> ...uh...zip...zilch...nada.
>
> As a more general note however, Ares I performance is a bit less than
> those
> of the heavy EELVs (Atlas V HLV and Delta IV-H), and this frustrates many
> at
> www.nasaspaceflight.com (that would include me.)
>
> Then I check the free forum (this link should work):
>
> http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/forum-view.asp?fid=5
>
> And get better results...probably the same author:
>
>
> http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=7647&posts=212&s
> tart=1
>
> That is the beginning of a thread which is 15 pages long at the time of
> this
> writing.
>
> The 214th post, by NSF administrator Chris Bergen reads:
>
> "I have been informed by high level Constellation people - and via sources
> passing on direct info from Constellation Project Manager level - that it
> is
> business as usual and there is no cancellation of Ares I/Orion pending.
>
> "There have been some issues with the margins **(which is nothing new of
> course**), but it's still within requirements and they expect to gain some
> margin back at the May 23 meeting.
>
> "They are also noting "John is just being John" in regards to the quotes
> acquired by collectSPACE.com, without intimating he's been misquoted etc.
> And some are slightly 'dismissive' of his comments **(hard for me to pass
> that on, as the guy's a hero, but there you go**).
>
> "Bottom line: There isn't a problem and May 23 is not a D-Day - according
> to
> the aforementioned people I've asked over the past few days.
>
> "Whether that's gospel or not, we'll have to see, but one would need proof
> of the above not being true. It is pretty telling that the same is coming
> back from both those who aren't all that happy with Ares, as well as those
> who think it's great.
>
> "Regardless, it'll all come out in the wash, as we say here."
>
> So...that's about it for now.
>
> On 4/26/07, E.P. Grondine <epgrondine at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I don't know how reliable this report is, but:
> >
> > http://collectspace.com/ubb/Forum39/HTML/000114.html
> >
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