[FPSPACE] Conspiracy....issues

Peter Pesavento eagle267 at svol.net
Sun Aug 8 13:41:42 EDT 2004


I have just received my fpspace compendium of messages, and I am really not very happy with any of the material I have been reading....I just finished talking with colleague Charles Vick about the 5L mission, and here is what we can say....

My thoughts...


a)  As to Sven and others saying that 5L didn't have a lunar lander component on board, I would like to direct personages to re-look and re-read Russian materials from the 1989-1992 time frame...I don't have them in front of me, but I will make mention of the materials that interested parties should take a re-look at... (including Mishin interviews in Russian newspapers and periodicals, as well as his monograph "Why Didn't we fly to the Moon", and Filin's monograph "Memories of the Lunar Lander"...even the monograph "Unknown Spacecraft" might have made a mention--but don't quote me on that...I am merely attempting to enjoin readers here to re-look)...in some of those sources, there is a discussion that 5L had on board an LK-related payload....the best that I can recall extemporaneously is that it was identified as a "simulator" (which can be interpreted in a variety of ways)....in our Quest article serialization, there is a discussion about this item...with appropriate photography....Indeed, Charles thinks that there might be mention about 5L's payload in the RKK Energia 50th Anniversary corporate volume....but that 5L had a lunar-lander form of component on board is extant....from what I can recall extemporaneously as I write this, at least several Russian sources mention ....

b) As to "conspiracy" theories....stop this BS....US intelligence knew that there was a lunar-related launching in the offing, and Peter N. James (he is available,  veracious, and an open source, which is why I continue to mention him) mentions what the CIA was interpreting what was going to happen....I say CIA because that is whom Peter N. James was off-loading his materials to...which then got to FTD, etc....US intelligence also keenly thought that the 5L mission also included a lunar lander component, as well as a cosmonaut participant component (in selenocentric space)....

c) As to my December 1984 Astronomy article mentioned by David Anderman, I mention that there was a two-rocket countdown--that was based partly on James' materials, as well as interviews that I had conducted at that time....as I have stated before, and in the Quest piece (re-read the reference discussion about Sheldon's article in the Bulletin of the ATomic Scientists from Sept. 1969 where the "official" thought was that on the first launching of the N-1 there would be a lunar stack placed in Earth orbit, followed by a later rendezvous with a Soyuz spacecraft with a partial transfer of crew--is it correct?  Don't know at this juncture...is that what the CIA was suspecting?  Yes.) a two-rocket scenario made a lot of sense to the US intelligence community (at least the CIA wing of it)...what about the NSA?  that's another story for another time....

I hope that these points aid all readers and those of the readership that want to do more of their own research on this topic....
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