[FPSPACE] FW: FYI fp space

[cpvick]

You are right except it is said that Mishin ordered the destruction of
the descent module because of some of the problems and the expectation
that it would land outside the USSR. So as to what was potentially left
in earth orbit remains a mystery to me if anything I remember this
mystery we all discussed in the 1970's and there was some wonder if it
had landed in China which I think is more of the myths that can be
debunked at this point. What really strikes me is the difference between
what the US thought was going on verses what was in fact going. It
screams to the inadequacy of the American Think as I have tried to make
some what clear with the following two papers that I urge all to read.
 
The following chapters from:
Unmasking N1-L3,
An In-depth Analysis of a Critical Aspect of the Cold War: The Soviet
Manned Lunar Programs, from the American and Russian Perspective.
By (c) Charles P. Vick, 1999-04, ALL RIGHTS RESERVED
has just been released on the Globalsecurity.org web site: URL :
 
http://www.globalsecurity.org/intell/library/reports/2004/open-source_im
agery_follow-on.htm
 
http://www.globalsecurity.org/intell/library/reports/2004/soviet-manned-
lunar-milestones.htm
 
Those of you that read the recent two of three installments of the Quest
articles The Moon Race "End Game" by C. P. Vick and Peter Pesavento will
remember the references to some of those unpublished documents now
released. This is the end product of an extremely difficult five year
study effort conducted by myself. It effectively declassifies for the U.
S. intelligence community historic information that was needed to fill
some of the Lunar Race data gaps of the U. S. side's view of the Soviet
efforts that the community has refused to release.
 
The credibility of official US intelligence community classification
policy is called into serious question by multiple agency efforts to
withhold 
Information that can be readily ascertained from open sources that can
be duplicated in considerable detail as is demonstrated by this study. 
 
I never imagined that I would be able to develop so much detail as the
first documents table-III displays. Many thanks go to Lt. Col. Vladimir
Antipov, Ted Molczan, Phillip S. Clark, and editorial assistance James
T. Westwood, Peter Pesavento, John E. Pike and Steven Aftergood and
other private information sources. Mr. Glenn Johnson,
Realspacemodels.com
 
1. Revealing Some of the Top Secret Follow-on Reconnaissance Satellite
Imagery & Data from Open Sources
By (c) Charles P. Vick, 1999-04, ALL RIGHTS RESERVED
06-27-04
 
This is a detailed review of the KH-8/Gambit-II and KH-9/Hexagon imagery
of the primary "J" vehicle activities that has been possible to 
Define from open sources of the U.S. and the former Soviet Union. It
defines both the process used and the information revealed. 
 
Introduction
Task Challenge
A. Composite of Debriefs 1972-2001 N1-L3/"J" Imagery Description
J. Physical Model of the "J" Vehicle and Parts of the Launch Facilities
Infrastructure to Simulate the Imagery Described.
B. Baikonur Cosmodrome Data
C. Declassified and Classified Russian Photos, Film and Video's
Information
D. Russian Literature and Industry Histories, Memoirs
E. CORONA/KH-1-4B and KH-7/Gambit Imagery
F. KH-8 and KH-9 Satellite Calendar Mission Duration
G. Orbital, Two Line Orbital Element Research Technique
Table-1: Three NPIC Coordinate targets Data Entry
Illustration -III : Target description:
Understanding the Optics Swath Imaging Area Capability Frames the Data
Imaging parameters (3)
Chart II: Optical Swath Data Parameters for Imaging

So, what is the amount of imagery we are actually demanding to be
allowed to see for historic documentation? 
Analysis of Two Line Orbital Element Results
H. Ground Track Plots
I. Review of the Weather Imagery Results
Table-1, 2, 3 Results & Conclusions Along with Appendix-B & C Data
Table-1: Summation of Known KH-7/Gambit, Coverage over the "J", "A" &
"G-3, 4" Infrastructure
Table-II: Summation of KH-8/Gambit, and KH-9/Hexagon Imaging Passes over
the "J", "A" & "G-3, 4" Infrastructure Based on Two 
Line Elements Orbital Analysis
When & What Imaging View Taken of the "J" Vehicle             
VIEWS of "J" Vehicle
Partial simulations of the quite significant historical KH-8/GAMBIT and
KH-9/HEXAGON images of the "J" vehicle yet to be 
declassified by the U. S. government based on open sources. 
Table-III: REVEALING THE SITE SPECIFIC TOP SECRET FOLLOW-ON KH-8/GAMBIT
AND KH-9/HEXAGON 
RECONNAISSANCE SATELLITE IMAGERY DATA BASED ON OPEN SOURCES
Credits: 
References
APPENDIX: A
FUTILITY OF REDACTING HISTORIC DATES FROM THE DECLASSIFIED PHOTO
INTERPRETATION REPORTS 
 
2. The Soviet Manned Lunar Race Milestones As Seen in the CORONA/KH-1-
4B, GAMBIT/KH-7, GAMBIT/KH-8 
& HEXAGON/KH-9 Imagery
Events in the Development of the SL-12/Proton-Zond & SL-X-15/N1-L3
Boosters
By C Charles P. Vick1998-2004 ALL RIGHTS RESERVED
&
Lt. Col. Vladimir Antipov Russian Space Forces ret..
06-07-04
 
It contains charted data from the official records of the Baikonur
cosmodrome on the "J: vehicle actual activities regardless of what the
U. S. intelligence community thought was going on along with the CORONA,
GAMBIT and HEXAGON coverage information defining what was images and or
monitored by US intelligence. This is the end product of a five year
study conducted by myself. Much credit is owed to Retired Lt. Col.
Vladimir Antipov, Dr. Dimtry Pieson, Phillip S. Clark and the late Dr.
Maxim Tarasenko.
 
Charles P. Vick
 
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[mailto:fpspace-bounces at friends-partners.org] On Behalf Of Saunders
B.Kramer Sr.
Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 3:57 PM
To: fpspace at friends-partners.org
Subject: [FPSPACE] Zond 4
 
Zond 4, an unmanned Soviet spacecraft was launched 180 deg away from 
the position of moon. It did NOT go out as far as lunar orbit, reaching 
193,000 miles (intentional)  and then returning to Earth with the 
intent of a reentry and landing in the USSR.  Guidance failed and it 
ended up in an elliptical orbit around the Earth and remained there for 
years. Would have to search my records to see if it ever reentered.
I recall offhand (but not positive as I write this) that there were 
prerecorded voice communication with Zond 4. None of these remarks are 
guesswork. I was in the aerospace industry at the time and we had a 
long running contract with the appropriate agencies to examine USSR  
space activity and was aboard right after the Zond 4 launch.  Didn't 
stay long, didn't like the nut that was running the program.
 
Saunders Kramer
 
 
 
 
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